What number of extra occasions can Joe Goldberg get away with homicide?
With the fourth season of You now streaming on Netflix, the way forward for the hit drama—and the serial killer it follows—might be on viewers’ minds. Within the newest installment of the collection, Joe (Penn Badgley) turns over a brand new leaf in London, the place he’s now working as a professor, however his previous catches as much as him when a not-so-anonymous killer begins concentrating on members of his wealthy new buddy group and pinning the murders on him. By the top of the season, he discovers who’s been framing him—himself!—and issues solely get wilder from there.
Right here’s what we all know of Joe’s subsequent chapter.
Has You been renewed for season 5?
Sure! Netflix introduced the information on March 24 and confirmed that the fifth season will probably be You‘s final. Seasons 1-4 showrunner Sera Gamble will stay as an government producer, however producers Michael Foley and Justin W. Lo will step in as co-showrunners for the ultimate go.
Gamble stated in an announcement:
“As I step again from day-to-day showrunning to give attention to new tasks, I am immensely grateful to co-creator and all-around genius Greg Berlanti, Caroline Kepnes, my associates at Berlanti Productions and Alloy Leisure, and our steadfast companions at Warner Bros and Netflix. Making the present alongside our writers, producers, administrators, solid and crew has been an honor and ridiculously enjoyable. And I really feel fortunate to have labored with an artist as gifted and considerate as Penn Badgely. I am pleased with what we have all achieved and really feel privileged to cross the torch. I am excited to observe and help the You crew as they carry Joe Goldberg’s journey to its delightfully twisted conclusion.”
Producers Greg Berlanti and Sarah Schechter added in their very own assertion that they “intend to convey [Gamble] each thought we are able to from our firm for years to return.”
Even earlier than the announcement, a renewal appeared extremely probably contemplating the present’s recognition. Gamble had beforehand expressed her plans for You to span a number of seasons. She advised The Hollywood Reporter again in 2019 after season 2, “I’m not scared in any respect of claiming that we undoubtedly may comply with Joe for a number of extra seasons.”
In a 2023 interview with IndieWire the present’s star Penn Badgley made it clear that he thinks You wants “to do one other season.”
“It feels to me like Joe must get what’s coming to him, and now he has additional to fall as a result of he has all this energy and wealth,” he stated. “However in fact, that’s lower than me. I don’t know the place it’s going. However to me, with this idea and with this character, we all the time needed to be accountable and it’s not simply the sort of factor we are able to let maintain going as a result of it’s doing properly.”
Badgley continued, “I do know the creators of the present all the time had this subsequent season in thoughts as its final, ought to there be one other one. After which it can most likely be a spectacular decision as a result of it feels to me like one thing is within the works by the very finish of this season.”
He did say that if the present ends with the season 4 finale it will be “considerably satisfying.”
“However I feel what’s notably dystopic or chilling about it’s he has successfully received. You could have taken this man and proven him going out on prime. In that sense, I don’t suppose it’s the conclusion that anyone needs,” he added.
What would season 5 be about?
The ultimate season of You’ll happen in New York, the place it began, and somebody from Joe’s previous is about to return. “Although I am unable to say who simply but, everyone knows there are lots of unfastened ends from Joe’s previous,” Badgley revealed in a video throughout Tudum. “The query is: Who’re you?”
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“You’ll know what the following season could be whenever you see the top of this season,” Gamble advised The Hollywood Reporter in February. “We inform you what the thought is.”
Positive sufficient, the setup turns into clear within the season 4 finale (once more, be warned of spoilers): Joe reveals his true id and murderous previous to his girlfriend Kate (Charlotte Ritchie), who not solely accepts him for who he’s, but additionally protects him and his fame. With the assistance of her, her wealth, and connections, he is capable of return to New York with a clear file and new narrative: that he’s a survivor of a violent companion (Love Quinn), and now hopes to alter the world together with his new #girlboss GF.
Underneath Kate’s safety, Joe could be untouchable. He even says within the finale that the killing will probably be loads simpler now. And after spending the entire season making an attempt to suppress his darkish aspect and turn out to be a great particular person, he is realized to just accept his id as a assassin. (Hooray for self-love, I suppose?) It is nonetheless unclear, although, if Kate is aware of that Joe killed her billionaire father, Tom Lockwood (Greg Kinnear). That would probably result in some drama in season 5.
“In some ways, whenever you’re not in denial about your intentions, you possibly can plan higher,” Gamble advised ELLE.com of Joe’s future. “So it’s much less that we expect he’s going to chop a bloody swathe in New York Metropolis, though we additionally wouldn’t put it previous him. It’s extra that he’s simply extra acutely aware of this aspect of himself and he is much less prone to be like, ‘Oops, I completely didn’t suppose I used to be going to shove that man down the steps. Now what am I going to do?’”
Additionally now that he is in New York, Joe’s story is coming full circle, in a means. “He appears to be like and feels like Joe Basic,” Gamble added. “He has regained his identify and now he’s rather more within the circles that he used to observe from afar and simply choose. He can have all of that entry, all of these sources, and not one of the anonymity that he used to have in New York.”
After which there’s Nadia. Joe’s clever literature pupil figures out that he is the Eat the Wealthy killer, however earlier than she will flip him in, he kills her boyfriend Edward and frames her for the homicide. By the top of the finale, poor Nadia is in jail for a criminal offense she did not commit. Here is to hoping she will get out, and perhaps will get some revenge, in season 5. As for Nadia’s and Marienne’s potential return, Gamble tells us, “Actually, the true reply is that we haven’t gotten within the room but to essentially hammer it out. If we get to make one other season, that’s what we’ll do.”
Tati Gabrielle hopes, for Marienne’s sake, that justic is served. “Marienne’s story feels nonetheless feels unfinished, and [it] nonetheless appears like she has one thing else that she must see via,” she advised TheWrap. “I don’t suppose that Marianne is a vengeful particular person, so I feel that she would need justice not essentially revenge.”
Regardless of the lengthy wait forward for a possible fifth season, Gamble is already enjoying with plot concepts for what comes subsequent. She advised THR:
“Now we have an thought for season 5 that we’re enthusiastic about. It was by no means anybody’s intention to run this one into the bottom. After we’re finished, we’ll be finished. And we’ll pack it up. Even within the early conversations with Penn, the thought was to not crank out episodes without end; it’s to really feel like now we have advised the whole story. And although I really feel like tonally, we’re very completely different and we aren’t making an attempt to promote Joe as any sort of a hero with a straight face. This can be a present that’s within the custom of those single-lead exhibits with a man who does more and more dangerous issues. The attractive factor about it’s that when his arc is full, so is the present.”
Who will probably be within the solid?
Until the You crew throws us a complete curveball, we’re banking on Penn Badgley to proceed main the present as Joe. As we have seen up to now, he often finds himself in a brand new crowd—generally even in a brand new metropolis—every season, so we wouldn’t be stunned to listen to of recent casting bulletins as soon as season 5 is confirmed. As for the present season 4 solid, which ranges from Lukas Gage to Charlotte Ritchie to Tati Gabrielle, we’ll have to attend to see who returns.
Will this be the final season?
Badgley beforehand hinted that You was drawing to an in depth when he advised British GQ, “I do know what Greg [Berlanti, the co-creator] pitched me a number of years again as what he thought was the precise technique to finish. If there’s one other one, it is going to be, I feel, a grand finale.”
When the season 5 renewal was introduced, Peter Friedlander, Vice President of Scripted Sequence, Netflix, US and Canada teased, “We’re excited — and a bit terrified — to see the way it all ends for Joe Goldberg, however one factor is for positive: YOU are in for an unforgettable ending.”
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Erica Gonzales is the Senior Tradition Editor at ELLE.com, the place she oversees protection on TV, films, music, books, and extra. She was beforehand an editor at HarpersBAZAAR.com. There’s a 75 p.c probability she’s listening to Lorde proper now.